@techreport{ww7tqs,
  author = {Gilly, Travis},
  title = {{The Jason and Mathy Conversation: Empathetic AI Safety Testing}},
  institution = {Real Safety AI Foundation},
  type = {Research Paper},
  year = {2025},
  month = oct,
  url = {https://realsafetyai.org/research/ww7tqs/}
}